On 12/9/14 how and where do you join this Hangout?

Many of these leaderless systems revolve around the concepts of shared values and a shared vision. We do the same, Vision and Values. But, to put them on the ground and make them real they need to be combined with something else - there needs to be responsibility. Literally, response-ability... the ability to respond (to circumstances, to commitments). That is really about decision making, the decision to commit/reward resources and people to a chosen course of action. And chosen by the responder. Specifically, given finite resources and rewards and people, who decides how these will be allocated? Given that what sets these systems apart from hierarchical systems is individual autonomy (a collaboration of "autonomous agents) how can I commit others to MY chosen course of action? I have become the decision maker. How can I commit their resources and agree their rewards for them? How is responsibility done? This is the heart of how those visions and values are made real. This cannot be done by consensus because there are just too many decisions to be carried out daily.

In your book Management 3.0 you say: "everyone should feel responsible for management" What does that mean? Is this like .....everyone should feel responsible for crime in the city? If YOU steal something... should I turn myself in? What do you mean by the word responsible in this context? I think you are missing the concept that in such a complex system "management" is an emergent property and not a directed activity. If I feel I am responsible for management then I might try to manage others and thus that path will lead back to Management 2.0 Together we manage, but we are not individually responsible for management; in the same way that when we talk together we can reach a common understanding, however we are at the same time both responsible for and not responsible for the common understanding (I MUST disagree until we share the understanding)... common understanding is an emergent property. As an individual, I can only be responsible for what I say- literally I can only be responsible for my responses.. and not for what you say. Certainly it is a self referencing feedback system, but I'm still not in control of what you say and neither should I feel I am. Philosophically it is not possible for me to be responsible for management, however my personal management (and the self referencing feedback) means I unwittingly contribute to the emergent system wide management- the important factor is "unwittingly". If, like everyone else in the city I am responsible for not committing crime then the emergent property is that the city will be crime-less. I unwittingly contribute to a crimeless city. If I feel responsible I might start policing the city, The crucial point is that it MUST be unwitting or I start to try to manage others (Management 2.0). The question is, how does your system (Man 3.0) ensure OTHER people do their bit? Does your book address this classic "prisoners dilemma" at the heart of Man 3.0?

Any chance this will be recorded? It's on at 5am here

How do i connect at 9:00am MT on Wed, 11/5? What URL or phone no do i use?